“Today, in our field, there is so much talent and recognition that we are reaching a saturation point. An artist should no longer strive only for breathtaking craftsmanship; he should, instead, try to help us live better, either by dressing the wounds that are constantly being opened by society, or by offering solutions to get us out of the mess we’re in…But it’s going to be difficult and we have a lot of work to do.” - Jean 'Moebius' Giraud

Thursday, October 05, 2006

VENOM_90 minutes


Please read. This makes for an interesting and alarming situation - perhaps explaining my apprehensive attitude about posting larger scans. Thanks all.


[10/5/06 7:12am, eric.canete@gmail.com]

Good morning, Ryan.

I hope you don't mind but I am thinking about re-posting, in part or in whole (and minus all the important information such as your e-mail address and such), your e-mail to me that concerns people taking images down from your website and trying to pass them off as the legitimate sales of originals on e-Bay.

But I thought it'd only be proper if I asked you first. It is after all, a private correspondence between you and me and I thought the appropriate thing to do would be to run it by you and take your temperature on it. If you could get back to me I'd certainly appreciate it. I'll speak with you soon.

Eric.

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[10/5/06 11:49am, **e-mail withheld by request**]

Hi Eric,

Nope, I don't mind at all, and can even give you some further details.

I was contacted by a dealer one night who notified me to the listing featuring four Sandman pieces from a VERY well-known artist from the Sandman books. I had a look at the pieces, and knew instantly that they were forgeries, as I was the actual owner of one of the pieces in question. But just to be certain, I called the artist on the spot and had him verify that the pieces were indeed forgeries, which the artist confirmed. At this point I sent emails to the seller, eBay, and all of the bidders, notifying them that these were fakes. My emails to the seller and, unfortunately, eBay went totally ignored, but most of the buyers got back to me. I was told by a few of the buyers that I was just another collector out to discredit his auctions so that I could get the pieces myself. The seller also wrote some rather nasty emails to other friends and associates of mine, claiming rather dubious motives on my part.

Ultimately, I had the artist email eBay as well, (though they still didn't stop the auction). The pieces ended out going for just under a thousand dollars. The high bidder, the artist, and myself came to an agreement that both myself and the high bidder would send the original pieces to the artist, and he would verify the validity of ALL of them, and then press charges against the seller accordingly. At this point the buyer decided not to purchase the pieces, and the seller more or less vanished from eBay.

Having related this story to a number of other collectors, I was contacted by a collector who had also had been offered many pieces privately from this seller. He forwarded me a number of emails, and I was shocked to find that out of nearly 25 pieces sent to me, the majority of them had been pilfered from my site and were no more than crass forgeries. There were a number of other pieces by several prominent artists, among them Mike Mignola, Art Adams, and Jon J Muth that were obvious fakes as well. It became pretty apparent at this point that this guy has probably been passing off fakes for while now, though I do think he sprinkles legitimate stuff as well, which makes him even more .

Unfortunately, without any of the fakes in my (or anybody else I knew) possession, it was pretty impossible to pursue any further action. The sandman.tv website came down, as I refused to be a catalog for somebody else to exploit collectors.

The guy disappeared for about a year, but has recently resurfaced the eBay handles (**edit**) and another that I don't remember off the top of my head, but I'll try and track it down for you.

I wouldn’t normally pass out contact information, but I strongly feel that this guy needs to stopped. His name is (**NAME WITHHELD**), resident of Grand Junction, Colorado, and the last valid email address I've got is (**edit**).

I'm fully with you on your reasoning for not possting bigger scans, it's exaclty this kind of thing that one wants to avoid. So indeed, yes, hopefully people will get the point!

Best,

-Ryan

11 comments:

Kevin Dalton said...

yer killing it man, your killing it.

i quit art! ;)

Debs said...

Oh, man. I'm so sorry, luv. That's terrible. I hope he gets caught soon.

potato farm girl said...

What a jerk face! I understand why you put things up the size you do, but I hope that stupid guy from Colorado get's a bunch of STD's!! Or at least has nightmares of Venom hanging over his bed at night!

Pipocalavera said...

Well ...Eric...I remember i never ask you for enlarge your scans..althought i've thought of it sometimes...
Because I think i can learn a lot of your draws.
But with people like that I'm sure you're doing the right thing.

Take care!

colin said...

I did ask for larger scans, because I love seeing the detail of good artists' work. It honestly never occured to me that they could be useful for producing forgeries, but I guess anywhere a buck can be made there will be people trying to scam it. It's a crying shame that this guy (and presumably others like him) have stolen from both artists and collectors, and taken away the chance to see and learn from these works for countless others.

A shame, but now I understand your reasons at least.

Chris said...

Surely this incredible Spidey vs. Venom pic can be shown a little bigger than this though without fear of your stuff getting swiped and sold, right?

Please!!!

Merciki said...

I think that the size of the images you post are perfect, just big enough to enjoy them. Too bad the venom piece is not available in the usual size.

Marcelo Braga said...

Well... There's always "The Dark Side of the NET".
Venom seems to have some problems with the web too...
Good luck!

Anonymous said...

The world of ebay has changed a lot of things. I guess once something is digital it is no longer safe.

I am amazed at your art and what a consistent fanbase you have created with this blog. I know I can't wait for your next post.

trialsze said...

Man bro I hate the fact that a few bad apples spoiles it for the rest of us. I love your work and can't wait to see more.

Asa said...

Man, that sucks. Why are douches trying to ruin yet another aspect of the web for us.